A dialogue that took place on October 20, , between Paulo Freire and the students in the seventh and eighth grades at Escola Vera Cruz in São Paulo. Transcribed by Cristina Chiappini Moraes Leite, originally published in Linha D' Agua magazine (), no. 6. Translator«s note: Even though in standard Portuguese. “How? Will you walk? You may try the ravine, but the cliff is perpendicular and there is no foothold. The alternative is the jungle, but no one has ever got through the jungle alive. The way by the road is closed. To everybody.” “You will not dare to hold me here.” “What is daring about it? I think you are a little feverish, Leite. An oak-aged bitter beer. Originally the beer had a slight citrus-bitterness due to its 4 hops and the subsequent dry hopping. The beer is acidified while it ripens for 4 months in oak wine casks. The daring bitter-sour combination is moderated by this ripening process and as a consequence it is a very pleasant drinking beer .